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No Harvey Milk Day

Governor vetoes bill naming homosexual activist’s birthday as ‘day of special significance’

There will be no Harvey Milk Day in California. On Sept. 30, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed a bill designating May 22 of each year as Harvey Milk Day – the birthday of the San Francisco homosexual-rights hero.

The bill, AB 2567, by Assemblyman Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, would have designated Harvey Milk Day as “a day of special significance,” and required the governor to proclaim Harvey Milk Day on May 22 every year. In addition, it would have “encouraged” public schools and educational institutions to observe Harvey Milk Day by conducting “exercises remembering and recognizing the life of Harvey Milk.”

In 1977, Milk became the first openly homosexual man elected to an important political office in the U.S. when he won a seat on the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. He and Mayor George Moscone were assassinated the following year by fellow Supervisor Dan White.

“Perhaps more than any other modern figure, Harvey Milk's life and political career embody the rise of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) civil rights movement,” said Leno in a legislative analyst’s review of the bill. “He was the first openly gay person to be elected to public office in a major city, serving on the San Francisco Board of Supervisors from 1977-1978. This bill would put California on record as recognizing the social contributions that Harvey Milk made to our nation as a civil rights leader. It would also allow schools to conduct activities that would foster respect for all, and educate students about an important figure who is often omitted from history lessons."

Here is the text of Schwarzenegger’s veto message in its entirety: “To the Members of the California State Assembly: I am returning Assembly Bill 2567 without my signature. I respect the author’s intent to designate May 22nd as ‘Harvey Milk Day’ and a day of special significance for California public schools and educational institutions to honor Harvey Milk as an important community leader and public official in the city and county of San Francisco. However, I believe his contributions should continue to be recognized at the local level by those who were most impacted by his contributions. For this reason, I am unable to sign this bill.”


Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 7:05 AM By Miguel
Glad to see the governor has maybe one slice of common sense left after capitulating to the socialist ideals of this disturbing state. The fact that anyone would propose a day for this man is troubling. The fact that there are so many American heros that children have no idea about is sad. The have no concept about General Grant, Teddy Roosevelt, Sgt. York, along with countless heros of World Wars II, Korea, Viet'nam, Mogudishu and Iraq. They also are trying to suppress Sept. 11th like it never occurred. Because they think America deserved it. This is the state we live in, a disgusting resemblance of what it once was. I don't even recognize it any more. People also need to realize how active Satan was in the sixties.

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 7:11 AM By tom Byrne
When will our bishops plan for the day when genuinely Catholic and other Christian citizens will be unable to get teaching credentials because they must in conscience refuse to demonstrate "gay is OK" attitudes or refuse to demonstrate gay-friendly lesson plans as part of the student teaching process? That's where this is headed. Julian lives.

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 7:24 AM By GuardianAngels
Same-sex attraction is a disorder and engaging in same-sex sexual acts is intrinsically evil. No thoughtful society should promote such behavior; it will inevitably lead to personal and social chaos. God bless those who struggle with this attraction, perhaps someday soon its causes will be better understood. We need to continue to protect and support marriage between a man and a woman. Yes on California's Proposition 8.

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 7:28 AM By Margie
No use crying over 'Spilled Milk'. And as a CA teacher, I am very glad this boondoggle did not pass.

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 7:34 AM By BobM
Telephoned objections must have been overwhelming. Good job, folks. Too bad we don't have a telephone number to call that will as effectively fix the Nation's economic problem. The Wall Street bailout (... c'mon, now ... of course it is) pushes us one step closer to the USA becoming the USSR (Untied States Socialist Republic). Need to pray harder, I guess?

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:42 AM By Vincent
In other words, his contributions, if any, were as mayor of San Francisco, rather than as a proponent of sodomy who was able to get elected to a political office. Fair enough.

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 9:41 AM By Life Lady
Thank God, and the grace of His Authority, that our California Governor did not compound the evil of this bill. He is correct. Let San Francisco elevate Harvey, just like they elevate their gay pride, and their friends in Folsom, the S&M confused.

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 9:53 AM By Iggy
Got Milk?

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 11:48 AM By Paul
I fully support the Governor's sane decision to veto this monstrous bill, but it shall not prevent homosexual groups from attempting to reintroduce it later, when a governor more amenable to their agenda has been elected. Americans, wake up and smell the coffee! What sort of legacy are we leaving our children to clean up after us if we allow these offenses to common decency to continue?

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 12:09 PM By simone_dubois

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 2:50 PM By Thomas

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 3:23 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
His reasons for vetoing this insane Bill are very questionable and ammoral! God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher, Founder & Chairman Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc.

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 3:40 PM By PAPAMAC

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 3:59 PM By Elizabeth
Thank you DEAR LORD!!!!!! That's all we would of needed...... A day that little children would of looked up and been told how being a homosexual is a good thing.

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 4:13 PM By B
Thomas, If we fear anything or anyone it is Elohim, God. We don't fear homosexuals we fear that the church may turn it's face from God. I love homosexuals both in theory and practice. B

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 6:11 PM By JLS
Thomas, it's not a matter of being afraid, but of being disgusted. This homosexualist movement is vicious and evil and extremely destructive. The only reason it has momentum is this particular technological age where these lost souls can excel with material wizardry, but live lives of abject failure. They have no responsibility to anyone other than their paycheck. They are hostile to anything family.

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 6:47 PM By Mariana Garcia
Do you realize that this man was killed for being gay, killed by a co-worker for speaking his mind and being truthful. He wasn't telling people to experiment and "be gay" he was spreading the message to respect people and most importantly respect yourself and don't be ashamed about who you are. It's sad many people die each year because of their gender. For example this year recently Laurence King and 14 year old boy was shot in the head in the library of the middle school he attended because he was openly gay. Harvey Milk was just trying to gain respect and help others gain respect as well.

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 7:06 PM By Sandy
I am certain that Mr. Milk is special to those of the Gay Community; however, such honors, as name days, are set aside for the Heros who have made significant contributions for the benefit of all citizens. Not just one segment of society. And religion has nothing to do with my comments. It does, however, have everything to do with fairness.

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:56 PM By Marie
I don't see any importance of having a day dedicated to him. It's just ridiculous that someone would even think of suggesting a Harvey Milk Day. Thank goodness that Schwarzenegger has some common sense!

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:59 PM By jim in sf
Harvey Milk was never mayor of SF as one post states. He was on the Board of Supervisors. Secondly, he was not killed because he was gay (although Dan White was as homophobic as many of the contributors here are). Milk & Moscone were killed because Dan White was really angry that they opposed his re-instatment to the Board after he threw a hissy fit and resigned. A couple of days later he changed his mind and Milk/Moscone got their political payback by opposing his return. He got a gun and shot both in their City Hall offices. Milk was NOT a gay martyr. Now that poor Matthew Shepard in Wyoming - he was killed because he was gay. He got a memorial bench.

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 10:16 PM By JLS
There is absolutely no respect among "gay" people, neither for themselves, for the society at large, nor for God. The number of people killed because they are homosexualists is relatively nil, compared to the number of people killed for many other reasons, such as being unwanted unborn babies, drunk drivers, in wars, diseases, starvation, eaten by wild animals, poisoned by snakes, struck by lightening. The nonsense propaganda of victims of gay bashing is utterly a non-issue ... the numbers are next to none. Harvey Milk was not "just trying to gain respect", he was perpetrating the grossest immorality on the public. He was murdered by a nut case, not by society. To forward his cause for sainthood was one of the cheapest and craven stunts the perverts could come up with ... Yes, the perves have found the vulnerabilities of society in general, such as the moral decadence, and that is what they are busy working up a lather about. Their days are numbered by God, just as the days of a serial killer are numbered.

Posted Thursday, October 02, 2008 10:55 PM By Anne T.
There are two sides to every story. Mariana Garcia, it was sad that both the mayor and Harvey Milk were murdered, but there was a lot more to it than that. The homosexual and lesbian communities had done some criminal things, too, for which they were never prosecuted before Milk and the mayor were killed. Some of them threatened Christian ministers and their congregations merely because they said homosexual sexual acts were unheathy and perverted, and they are. One minister had his house set on fire because he won a law suit against an organist he had let go because his was a praciticing homosexual (a morals charge). Some even called the preachers house and threatened to sodomize his young son. They took down a U.S. flag at a church and put up a rainbow flag and harrassed the congregation, even though they were not members of the of the church were they did that. We have all committed some sins in our lives, but bragging about them is not something to be admired. What if we had an unmarried mothers day, or a day for adulterers, adultresses and fornicators, or how about one for a thief who were murdered. I am not saying that Milk deserved to be murdered; I am just saying that he never did anything that virtuous to honor him. This is one reason why I do not believe in so-called hate crimes. As far as I am concerned, all murders are "hate" crimes, no matter who is murdered and by whom.

Posted Friday, October 03, 2008 3:25 AM By Jessie
Anne T thinks she knows what she is talking about, but she does not. As usual, people like Anne speak, not from knowledge, or experience, or even, compassion. Anne and her kind speak from ignorance and hatred. When such people ignorant of something, they are automatically afraid of it. Anne, Gay people don't want your permission, or your forgiveness, or even your interest. They just want to be left alone. So, Anne, abandon your self serving persona of a self made "demi-god". Let's put it all into the Loving Hands of the Lord. HE'll take care of it.

Posted Friday, October 03, 2008 4:59 AM By Fr. M.P.
I wonder if there will be a lot of "cry-babies" (see the fire fighter homosexual parade article) on this situation?

Posted Friday, October 03, 2008 6:50 AM By Dai Yoshida
Dan White was a not-so-bright political light-weight who got out-maneuvered by Moscone at every turn. Milk and Moscone were ruthless politicians who took delight in Dan White's financial and personal ruin. I wouldn't say they deserved what they got but they did contributed to their demise by their lack of charity. Nobody's a hero in this tragedy.

Posted Friday, October 03, 2008 3:41 PM By Paula H.
The idea of our incompetent CA Assembly dreaming up a day for such a disgusting reason is an insult to the good and majority of citizens in the state of CA. Whomever thinks this idea is worthwhile needs their head examined. It makes as much sense as having a day set aside to honor murders like Charles Manson. Laugh if you will, but some folks need to have alittle common sense. Trouble is the CA Assembly hasn't any to begin with. I also think that the Govenator's reply to the Assembly was meely-mouthed and didn't state the real principle behind his veto. It gives the appearance that the Govenator is a weakling, afraid to be straight-forward and speak the truth. Homosexuallity is sin like it or not. To be silent is to condone, and to condone means we are accountable for not doing something to stand up against this sin.

Posted Friday, October 03, 2008 3:48 PM By Harvey
JLS, you said it all and very well I might add!

Posted Friday, October 03, 2008 5:09 PM By Anne T.
Jessie, what happened around the time Milk was killed is still all online. You can find it in the book, "When the Wicked Seize a City." Also, under titles such as homosexual rioting in the seventies in San Francisco. Not all people with homosexual tendencies do those things, but the ones who do have caused others to be totally disgusted at the situation. Jessie you can called me and others all the names you want, we have a thick skins, but teaching children that such behavior is "normal" is not going to happen on my watch, and I and other conscientious people are NOT going to keep our mouths shut for the sake of the innocent children who will be told, in essense, that anal sex, rimming, fisting, etc. are normal behavior. For those of you who do not know what those things means, I suggest you go to a medical site, and see all the diseases and dangers involved in such behavior. Also, the free online Wikipedia Encyclopedia has articles on this type of behavior. I warn you, though, that the encyclopedia website sometimes have some graphic pictures. No one can stop adults from doing things that harm their bodies, and I and no one else I know have any desire to go snooping in someone's bedroom, but teaching children what is wrong is right is a totally different matter, and that is probably what is going to happen in the public schools because of the new legislation on sex education.

Posted Friday, October 03, 2008 5:28 PM By Miguel
I second Harvey, It's amazing to me how these people have the floor and preach to the "sheep." And people actually believe this garbage. It's incredible.

Posted Friday, October 03, 2008 6:03 PM By Victoria G.C.
When I read such words, as those written by AnneT., I can only wonder how someone who espouses to be a Christian, let alone a Roman Catholic, could write such hateful things about fellow human beings, Gay or otherwise. What does someone who writes such things do, or think when they are in church. AnneT., The Message of the Love of Christ and The Fellowship of The Holy Spirit has been lost on you. We, ALL OF US, Are Children of GOD. It is not within your power, Anne, to pass judgement on anyone.

Posted Friday, October 03, 2008 8:07 PM By Anne T.
Oh! really, Victoria. We all make "judgments". You just passed judgment on me. The Bible only tells us to make fair, impartial and just judgments and to make sure we are not committing the same type of sins of which we are accusing others. I did not pass judgment on the state of Harvey Milk"s soul when he died. I never said where he went when he died. I just said that he had not done anything so important that we should have a state holiday for him. I also brought out the fact that his death did not come in a vacuum. There was a lot of evil going on in San Francisco at that time, including that done by the homosexual and lesbian community itself. I also said that not AlLL homosexuals and lesbians were guilty of the same evil actions. I certainly was not including anyone who lived chastely. I am NOT happy that he was murdered. Is it hateful to tell people the truth--that their behavior is destroying their own bodies and society in general? I think not. Remember, Victoria, all of us have had to "pick up the pieces" of such behavior. There is an epedemic of veneral and other diseases connected to such actions in this country that we are all are paying for, whether we practice such behavior or not. In reality, Victoria, some so-called "private" behaviors do affect society and we do pay the price for each other's sins.

Posted Friday, October 03, 2008 8:25 PM By JLS
Victoria G. C., the gay agenda line you are spouting is nothing but deception. It is absolutely wrong to claim all are children of God, when Jesus Christ teaches that some have the devil for their fathers. You are also completely wrong when you allege that a human being does not have the power to judge anyone ... What you are in effect doing is bearing false witness against the Holy Spirit ... you should read what the Spirit of God actually has His prophets say ... it's in Scripture in case you did not know it.

Posted Friday, October 03, 2008 8:42 PM By Eileen
Victoria G.C. It is not within 'your power' to pass judgement on Anne T. Anne T. is certainly correct in judging sinful behavior. There was never one mention of Anne T.'s judging someone's soul. The message of the Love of Christ is to "sin no more"! Thank you Anne T. for caring more about offending God than false charity and sinful fellowship!

Posted Friday, October 03, 2008 9:25 PM By Anne T.
By the way, Victoria, when I said that we should not celebrate an Unwed Mother's Day, I was just trying to make the point that we don't celebrate the sin (having a child out of wedlock). Never-the-less, we can and do celebrate the child. I have helped many a mother in a predicament, both wed and unwed, but I would not tell someone to go and sin again. It is not good for the woman or the child. Including them in just a Mother's Day celebration is fine. My point was that if we celebrate sodomy, why not all the sins, and of course, that is wrong.

Posted Saturday, October 04, 2008 8:34 PM By Mea Culpa
Right on cue, here come the homosexual activists, saying that if we don't want their homosexual agenda forced on our kids at school, we're intolerant bullies. WRONG! Homosexuality is a gravely disordered condition, and to try to legitimize it with special "days" for homosexual "heroes" is sick. How about some special "days" for heroes of bestiality, or pedophilia. That this made it to the governor's desk shows how sick our society has become. How long will God withhold his wrath while we murder our unborn children and honor perversion with special "days" and "heroes" of the pervert cause?

Posted Saturday, October 04, 2008 9:03 PM By Aileen
As long as I live, I will never understand the lack of compassion and understanding that some people have for their fellow human beings. You all claim to be catholics and yet, you have hearts of stone and tear at each other without mercy. Shame On All Of You!!!!

Posted Sunday, October 05, 2008 1:19 PM By Victoria G.C.
No. Eileen, it is not up to you, or Anne, or JLS to judge people you don't know. And it is certainly not within the power of any of us to speak for GOD. To appeal to the humanity and tolerance (if any of you know the meaning of the words) in each of you, was my intention. And when I speak of GOD, I don't mean the angry, petulant, vindictive old man that you bow down to and fear so much. My version of GOD is Kind and Good. I hope for your sakes, that, when your time comes, HE will be more understanding of you than you are of others.

Posted Sunday, October 05, 2008 3:20 PM By Eileen
Aileen, There is a cure for your predicament of choosing to live your entire life without understanding what real charity means. Shame on you Aileen for not properly researching what does happen to people who ignore God's Laws. Aileen you are no different than the peddler by the roadside selling sugar water that tastes good but cures nothing. In fact Aileen, sugar water helps bacteria to grow faster. Don't live your entire life in blinded ignorance. Love the sinner but help them at all cost to see that sinning is offensive to God. Aileen, please don't give the tired ol' run of the mill excuse that Catholics don't love the sinner. My homosexual cousin who died a horrifically painful death from A.I.D.S. with deep sores covering his entire body, knew that we loved him. We showed it with truth and with actions. Guess what Aileen? My cousin wanted to be in God's grace before he died. He knew what the destructive sugary supporting lies of the "gay lifestyle " brought". My cousin did not want your meaningless sugar water Aileen. My cousin chose to be pleasing to God. Please follow my cousins footsteps Aileen so you will never have to lead an entire life of never understanding the truth. Shame on you again Aileen for not loving homosexuals enough! Throw out your old sugar water and help lead them to the Real Divine Physician. Stop promoting sin Aileen. We will never understand why people such as yourself choose to "play" God over helping everyone (including homosexuals) to not want to offend God through sinful acts. Aileen, save your extra dramatic exclamation marks at the end of your post. Only use them when you have a total conversion to tell people to not sin!!!!. That will be something really worth exclaiming!!!!!

Posted Sunday, October 05, 2008 4:17 PM By Aileen
And SHAME ON YOU, Eileen. You have such a closed mind and a stone heart. You are lost.

Posted Sunday, October 05, 2008 5:40 PM By Anne T.
Eileen, I am sorry to hear what happened to your cousin, but praise God that when he died he was in the grace of the Lord. Aileen, Fr. Paul Marx once said in a sermon, "God forgives and man forgives, but nature never forgives." He was right. What we do to our bodies makes a difference. If we misuse them, we suffer the consequences. I don't like to go into this, but do you realize that some homosexuals and lesbians actual ingest small or larger amounts of feces, yes feces, when they perform certain sexual activities. I know that for a fact. A nurse told me what was happening in S.F., and other realiable sources have told me also. People do even worse things when they are on drugs or alcohol. Do you think that that can ever be called a healthy thing to do. Also, the body parts that are misused tear, rupture, get fungal infections, herpes viruses, etc. I realize that not all homosexual and lesbians do the same things, but the activity is unhealthy and a misuse of the genital function. Nothing will ever "cure" all the diseases and injuries that people do to their bodies from such behavior. Telling someone, whether an adult or child, that such behavior is love is a lie. That is not love, that is lust. There is a difference. Wake up! Victoria and Aileen, before it is too late.

Posted Sunday, October 05, 2008 8:01 PM By Grisha
Anne T: A "..stable and happy, two-parent," family? Sure. Necessarily heterosexual? I don't know... I think if we were to ask Will, a very bright eight year old we know, if he wanted to exchange his two moms for a heterosexual couple "to be named later" he'd give us a very articulate why he wouldn't want it. I'm sorry the young girl you know has such a dysfunctional family, though, I would suspect that things would be just as bad if her mom ended up with a woman partner on the third try or not. I think we're better off supporting things that promote stability in ALL families and stop worrying so much about gays.

Posted Sunday, October 05, 2008 8:13 PM By JLS
Aileen, where do you come up with your view of compassion? Aileen, did you know that true compassion includes the use of reason. I don't see any of this in your posts; would you kindly and compassionately say something reasonable?

Posted Sunday, October 05, 2008 8:14 PM By JLS
Nature does not forgive, but thank God but damage to it can be restored at least to some extent.

Posted Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:12 PM By Gwen
Anne T, I don't like to go into this, but do you realize that many HETEROsexuals actually ingest small or larger amounts of feces, yes feces, when they perform certain sexual activities. And according to the 2002 National Survey of Family Growth (NSFG), a survey of over 12,000 men and women aged 15 to 44, including many thousands of Catholics, 34 percent of men and 30 percent of women reported engaging in anal sex. Who'd have thought that!

Posted Monday, October 06, 2008 2:15 PM By Anne T.
Gwen, it is sickening for anyone, and the Church teachings (moral theology) forbid it. If you are Catholic and you want the right teachings on such things, go to the ETWN Television network forum they will tell you point blank how unhealthy such activities are. Common sense would tell one that also. Now I am getting off of this site. I can stand this subject no longer. It is unbelievable what some people will do. Most of the time they are so high on drugs and alcohol that they do not even know what they are doing.

Posted Monday, October 06, 2008 2:43 PM By Bruce
Gwen, Did you ever bother to check it out and find out whom sponsors NSFG? That might shed alot of light on this stinky viewpoint.

Posted Monday, October 06, 2008 5:06 PM By Paul
NSFG is sponsored by the National Center for Health Statistics, United States Department of Health and Human Services.

Posted Monday, October 06, 2008 5:22 PM By Solano
Yes, Anne T., there are a lot of horrible things happening in this world; and some of those horrible things are happening to children. You might not like what Gwen and some of the others write, but it is the REAL World they are talking and writing about. You may not like to hear it, but it is a tough world and, I'm sorry to say, a cruel one, especially for Little One's. You have your nose stuck in The Bible and you think that just by reading Scripture, all the evils of the world are going to go away. Scripture was given to us as a guide, not as a place to hide out in. Being able to quote scripture at the drop of a hat means nothing. The devil can readily quote scripture when it suits his purposes. Gwen is living in the REAL World; The Here & The Now. As for you Anne T.? I have no idea what planet you're on.

Posted Monday, October 06, 2008 6:07 PM By Anne T.
Solono, I thought she meant she was in a community of nuns, but she meant her church. This is it for me, though. I have heard some of these people twist the Bible and the Cathechism so much and come up with things so unbelievable evil that even common sense, without any Bible tell me they are wrong. I'll post on here no longer. This is insane.

Posted Monday, October 06, 2008 8:06 PM By Mark from PA
Lets face it. Most of the people don't cre about Harvey Milk or Laurence King. To some here they were just disordered perverts and good riddance. Are gay people disordered, defective, evil. No, but some here believe it. Some are blinded by their own hatred and prejudice. I noted what you said Gwen. I realize that the Catholic Church believes that oral sex and anal sex are perversions but if all the heterosexual people that engaged in these practices disappeared along with their collection contributions the Church might be in a bit of trouble. Most people would not want others to know what they do in their bedrooms.

Posted Monday, October 06, 2008 8:48 PM By Anne T.
I am cleaning up my errors before I go. My last post was meant for another article. Wrong salutation, wrong post. It does not matter anyway. I have better things to do.

Posted Monday, October 06, 2008 9:01 PM By Sporadic Reader
"Most people would not want others to know what they do in their bedrooms." Oh yeah, some people organize parades to show the public what they do in their bedrooms. Disgusting.

Posted Monday, October 06, 2008 9:54 PM By JLS
Gwen, there are "lies, damn lies, and statistics". Better to put your faith in God than in someone's claim based on statistics. *** Solano, your description of Anne T. indicates you know her statistical profile ... that is the trap that statistically dependent people are stuck in, they come up with the answer before they do the sampling. You dream that Gwen is living in the real world ... based on what statistical survey? *** And then there is the Mark from PA type: They somehow have the inside information on all mankind. I suppose these types simply want to have a world which suits their own perversion, and so they try to put one over on as many as they can.

Posted Monday, October 06, 2008 10:34 PM By Victoria
PA, is right. What some people say, and then what they turn around and do, can be, two different things. We have a world wide clergy abuse scandal to back that up.

Posted Monday, October 06, 2008 10:41 PM By Eileen
Jessie, How can you honestly tell Anne T. that gay people,...... "They just want to be left alone"? Why are they here on this Catholic website then if they just want to be left alone? Jesse you just got caught in a fib. They don't want to be left alone. They want to sell or excuse mortal sin on a Catholic website. Jessie, you need a better fib if you are going to try to dish the fake fact that homosexuals just want to be left alone drama. If they wanted to never be challenged with the truth they would search out the Harvey Milk or Ellen Degeneres website....not the California Catholic Daily website.

Posted Monday, October 06, 2008 11:51 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
Gwen, I guess in your misguided view of our Catholic Faith, the fact that many so called Catholics do it makes it ok. WRONG! Oh by the way, conversely, the fact that many of you call admonishing the sinner as Jesus commanded hate , doesn't make it so! God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher, Founder & Chairman Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc.

Posted Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:28 AM By JLS
Anne T., I don't see any need to fuss over your typos ... your message carries a lot of holy gusto.

Posted Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:29 AM By JLS
Victoria, if you listen carefully to what those clerics say, who are involved in perversity, there will be clues that reveal what they try to mask.

Posted Tuesday, October 07, 2008 1:09 PM By Victoria
For once, I agree with JLS. Knit-Picking over typos, or criticising someone's grammar is petty and rediculous. 'Shows the, "Knit-Picker" has nothing intelligent, or important to say.

Posted Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:15 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
Most of the time, the typos are just that. I often read what I entered and clearly recognize the errors, but it is too late. Some blogs have a preview feature that allows you to eliminate a good deal of these mistakes. I wish this one had that feature! God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher, Founder & Chairman Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc.

Posted Tuesday, October 07, 2008 6:03 PM By Victoria
Well, KMF, We should all just be giving thanks that we have this open forum on which we can discuss our feelings and ideas. We are truly Blessed to live in the USA.

Posted Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:16 PM By JLS
Victoria, some of the posters also discuss God's holy Word, and many of us actually reason out issues in light of what we know and believe of Catholic faith. In other words God has provided more for us than leaving us to the misery of our feelings and own ideas.

Posted Wednesday, October 08, 2008 4:36 PM By Kenneth M. Fisher
Victoria, For now we have that freedom, after November it may be distinguished with the passage of the FOCA act by Barak Hussein Obama, formerly Barry Soetero! God bless, yours in Their Hearts, Kenneth M. Fisher, Founder & Chairman Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc.

Posted Wednesday, October 08, 2008 4:44 PM By Victoria
Yes, JLS, so you;ve said many, many, MANY times.And I keep telling you how "cheeky" you are to presume to speak on behalf of Our Lord. Someday you will meet The Master, and then you will discover He is not the monster you always thought, or have tried to convince other people, that He is.

Posted Friday, November 14, 2008 4:42 AM By Time to wake up
People this is ridiculous, being gay is not "evil", saying that it is simply distorts the brains of many young children who are crying at homes across the globe thinking there is no place for them to belong. Does god love all of his children, if yes then why do you all preach with such mindless glee over the oppression of a young boy who in your eyes should you be damned to hell for their sexual orientation. Is that any kind of love or religious tolerance? There was a time when hundreds of women had there clitorises cut out and their throats slit because religion dedicated that they were evil and sexually promiscuous. Thankfully religion matured and moved on. I feel that you all need to do the same. At times of fear, war and uncomprehending murder and violence on the street corners, the one thing that religion can bring to the world is a sense of unity and hope. If religion seeks to divide, judge and oppress, rather than understand, encourage and unite, then please tell me what's the point of it? Move on or get out of the way.

Posted Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:33 PM By The ?
This argument is the same as every other. People need someone to blame, someone to hate. whether it's hating jews, or blacks, or gays! IT'S ALL THE SAME. Hate for NO REASON. What did any of these people do directly to you? It's not like they come around hanging catholics! Oh no, it's the other way around! Hate groups go to kill THOSE people. EVERYONE DESERVES A CHANCE AT LIFE! Man should have NO SAY who gets to live or die. THATS GODS JOB, MORONS!! And if god didn't like gays, jews, or blacks, HE WOULDN'T HAVE PUT US HERE ON THE EARTH!!!!

Posted Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:30 PM By Hello, World..
"I second Harvey, It's amazing to me how these people have the floor and preach to the "sheep." And people actually believe this garbage. It's incredible." Miguel, you've got to be joking. You are being preached to by the members of the Catholic church and believing them just as easily as any other, are you not? How can you say that believing one thing you are told is any worse than believing another? This type of thinking is just so hypocritical, it's incredible. I understand the point you are trying to make, but you need to clean your own finger before you point out others' black spots.

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